The Boogie Board Wave Chasers is a club of women between the ages of 55 and 95. They meet multiple times per week on the beaches of San Diego. Their adventurous meetups are more than a workout– they've evolved into a community of women that show up for each other, in and out of the water.
The Boogie Board Wave Chasers is a club of women between the ages of 55 and 95. Five days a week, on the beaches of San Diego, these women charge waves, and have the time of their lives. Boogie boarding keeps these women young. It is a workout to swim against the current, hop up on their boards, and get up off the sand. Most of all, together, these women have built a community that cheers them on, in and out of the water.
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Shelby Stanger:
This past spring, I was out running at the beach near my house, when I saw a group of older women boogie boarding. They were laughing and hollering so loud, it was hard not to notice them. So of course, me being me, I had to go introduce myself. I found out these women were part of a club called the Boogie Board Wave Chasers. They've been featured everywhere, from local news to The Drew Barrymore Show. They're all between the ages of 56 and 96. That's right. Some of these gals are in their eighties and nineties and they get together five times a week. I asked if I could join them on their next outing and they were ecstatic. Pretty soon, I was riding waves with them and having a blast. I'm Shelby Stanger, and this is Wild Ideas Worth Living, an REI Co-Op Studios production.
Shelby Stanger:
The week before Easter Sunday, I went to the beach to boogie board with the group. I'd seen on their email thread that I was supposed to wear Easter themed accessories. So I borrowed some bunny ears from my 11 year old neighbor. When I got to the parking lot, the women were wearing their wetsuits, but they also had on homemade hats with fake flowers glued on, bunny ears, and they were just chomping at the bit to get out in the water. Immediately it felt like being part of a big family reunion. There was so much boisterous laughter and chatter, it was hard to get a word in. That day I met seven club members, including founder, Fran Dyer and regular member, Erin Weidner.
Shelby Stanger:
Well, ladies, welcome to Wild Ideas Worth Living.
Erin Weidner:
Thanks.
Fran Dyer:
Thank you. We're looking forward to this.
Shelby Stanger:
This past spring, I was out running at the beach near my house, when I saw a group of older women boogie boarding. They were laughing and hollering so loud, it was hard not to notice them. So of course, me being me, I had to go introduce myself. I found out these women were part of a club called the Boogie Board Wave Chasers. They've been featured everywhere, from local news to The Drew Barrymore Show. They're all between the ages of 56 and 96. That's right. Some of these gals are in their eighties and nineties and they get together five times a week. I asked if I could join them on their next outing and they were ecstatic. Pretty soon, I was riding waves with them and having a blast. I'm Shelby Stanger, and this is Wild Ideas Worth Living, an REI Co-Op Studios production.
Shelby Stanger:
The week before Easter Sunday, I went to the beach to boogie board with the group. I'd seen on their email thread that I was supposed to wear Easter themed accessories. So I borrowed some bunny ears from my 11 year old neighbor. When I got to the parking lot, the women were wearing their wetsuits, but they also had on homemade hats with fake flowers glued on, bunny ears, and they were just chomping at the bit to get out in the water. Immediately it felt like being part of a big family reunion. There was so much boisterous laughter and chatter, it was hard to get a word in. That day I met seven club members, including founder, Fran Dyer and regular member, Erin Weidner.
Shelby Stanger:
Well, ladies, welcome to Wild Ideas Worth Living.
Erin Weidner:
Thanks.
Fran Dyer:
Thank you. We're looking forward to this.
Erin Weidner:
We're glad to be here.
Shelby Stanger:
Thanks for having me at boogie boarding last weekend.
Fran Dyer:
The waves were not good, but everybody had a great time.
Shelby Stanger:
I thought the waves were big. I was so impressed.
Erin Weidner:
We're all very sore afterwards because we all felt like we were trying to paddle or kick or something to catch the waves, compared to usual.
Fran Dyer:
Usually the waves catch you and they do all the work. But you know what? Here's the nice thing about boogie boarding, is that even if the waves are not good, the socialization is great. It's that community that is just as important as the boogie boarding.
Shelby Stanger:
How was this boogie board club founded? And then let's talk about what it is today.
Fran Dyer:
It was founded in 2005. I looked up all the research and our first media article was in a local newspaper in 2005. And what was happening is, I lived here full time, at that time, in Solana Beach and we were part of a club called Newcomers. And it was for women and men, but mostly women, who had just moved to the territory, moved here. It was a way for us to meet friends, to have activities. Primarily the members are 55 plus, many retired women. And we had a Weight Watcher meeting going on. And the Weight Watcher meeting got over at ten o'clock. And because we're 120 steps down to the beach, I said at one meeting, hey, listen, who wants to go boogie boarding after these meetings? And there were five of us, there were 20 people in the meeting and there were five of us that said, great, let's go. And that's how we began.
Shelby Stanger:
But you could have chosen so many other things to do. You could have gone walking, you could have played tennis, you could have done pickle ball.
Fran Dyer:
The thing about boogie boarding is, everyone loves to go. If you love the water and I do, you would love to go to the beach with somebody. And when we were mothers and we had our kids at home, we took our kids. We went with our friends and everything. It's not as much fun to boogie board alone. It's not as much fun [crosstalk 00:03:36].
Shelby Stanger:
[crosstalk 00:03:36] That's a great point.
Erin Weidner:
It's not fun. I've never been boogie boarding alone. [crosstalk 00:03:39]
Fran Dyer:
No, it's not that much fun to go in the ocean alone. Well, our kids are all grown. So at this meeting, I thought I'm going to go boogie boarding with somebody. This is so boring just to go by myself, even though it's a close walk. And so five of us started going and we put it out in the newsletter that hey, anybody want to join us for boogie boarding, well, here's when we go. And the club just kept growing.
Shelby Stanger:
So, how old's the oldest member and how old's the youngest member?
Fran Dyer:
I think the youngest member at this point is about 51.
Shelby Stanger:
Oh wow.
Fran Dyer:
And the oldest member right now, they're in their mid eighties. But we had a woman who just turned 97. And she was boogie boarding until last year.
Erin Weidner:
Yeah. She was out boogie boarding with us last year.
Fran Dyer:
[crosstalk 00:04:22] She was out boogie boarding until this last year. [crosstalk 00:04:23] But at 97, when she had her 97th birthday, she said, you know what? I'm done.
Erin Weidner:
You know what? And the last time that she came, because I'd met her a couple of times before, but she comes with her caregiver. Her caregiver drives her and gets her there.
Fran Dyer:
And she's almost blind.
Shelby Stanger:
Wow.
Erin Weidner:
That's why--
Fran Dyer:
It's very amazing. But that's also the beauty of boogie boarding, I think.
Erin Weidner:
Yes.
Fran Dyer:
Is that first of all, it's easy. It's affordable. You don't have to be a great swimmer. We even have had some people that are non-swimmers that come out and boogie board. Because the board is safe. You can just fall on the board and it will carry you in.
Shelby Stanger:
Amazing. Wait, how old are you ladies? Can I ask? I know we're not supposed to ask that to other women. But this is part of the allure is, you're cool. And you're over 40.
Fran Dyer:
I'm 75.
Shelby Stanger:
And you're 59?
Erin Weidner:
No, I turned 60 this week.
Fran Dyer:
Oh this week.
Shelby Stanger:
Oh. Happy birthday.
Fran Dyer:
I think the beauty of boogie boarding is that it's ageless. As one woman said, the confidence that boogie boarding has given her, is that she felt like as she's getting older, it's harder to do things. She doesn't know if she's got the physical ability to do things. And when she tried boogie boarding, she said, okay, I'll just try it. She was amazed at how much her body moved. She never felt her whole body move that much. And the more she boogie board, it finally led into confidence that she started hiking. It gave her the confidence to try riding an e-bike, because she thought if I can do this in the water and I can still get up from my knees, because think about it, when you boogie board, you land on--
Erin Weidner:
[crosstalk 00:05:59] You're flat on the sand.
Fran Dyer:
[crosstalk 00:05:59] The ocean, flat on the beach [crosstalk 00:06:02] and you have to get up with your knees intact. And she thought, if I can do all this stuff, then I probably can do this also. So she started hiking, going downhill hiking, and she started to ride an e-bike. And that's the confidence, in her own physical ability that boogie boarding gave her.
Shelby Stanger:
It's a joy. And someone was asking me if it was a good workout. And I was like, it is an insane workout, because you walk out into the surf and you're moving against the waves and the waves are really going against your whole body, but it must be the best workout as you age because it works all your little muscles, your little muscles in your feet, your little muscles in your knees, your little muscles in your legs. I was going to say, I know this guy who taught surfing in Nicaragua and he had this knee surgery. And he's like, honestly, the thing that saved my knee and actually healed it so fast was pushing people in the wave, is the same movement you're in the water, your knees get pretty strong.
Fran Dyer:
Oh, they do.
Shelby Stanger:
Because there's so many little muscles at work.
Fran Dyer:
That's right.
Erin Weidner:
Yeah.
Shelby Stanger:
You don't work when you're running on a straight line or walking in a straight line.
Fran Dyer:
The thing about boogie board is that, and this is what every single woman who answered the questions for this taping, they all said, it's a whole body movement.
Erin Weidner:
Work out, yeah.
Fran Dyer:
Every single muscle and joint in their body is worked by boogie boarding. And I never thought about it that way, but that's the truth, because you think about it, it's your shoulders, it's your arms, it's your hands. It's everything.
Erin Weidner:
You're sideways on the sand like this in this much water. And you have to figure out--
Fran Dyer:
How to get up.
Erin Weidner:
How to get up before the next wave.
Fran Dyer:
How to turn yourself. I'm going to read you something and so you can put this into your podcast. This is for those people who wonder, how can boogie boarding be exercise? One of our members said, it really is a cardio workout. You need to work hard to stretch the full wetsuit over your curvaceous body. You bend, you have to pull, you stretch. And then you have to walk from your car, which may involve steep hills or 120 stairs down the bluff to the beach, carrying your board and the rest of your gear. Walking out to catch a wave is great exercise for your calves, your quads and your glutes. Especially when the current is strong and the waves are large. Catching the wave involves timing and a quick jump onto the board. A minutes rest and fun experiencing the wave roll under you and then you are flat on the beach and you have to get yourself into a standup position from the sand, a workout for your knees. You repeat this cycle for an hour or so and then you reverse that getting there exercise, to go home.
Shelby Stanger:
Boogie boarding is an incredibly fun activity, but it's also a workout. For those who don't know what a boogie board is, the boards are short, they're wide. They're made from foam and they're pretty user friendly and so light that it's hard to get hurt, even if you hit yourself on the head with one. When a wave comes, you hop up with your stomach on the board and ride it all the way into shore. Then you walk back out to where the waves are breaking, fighting the current the whole way and you do it all over again. It can take a few tries, but these ladies are pros. It helps when you have a community of like-minded women, helping you learn the ropes and cheering you on. What's your personal story, Fran? What did you do before you boogie boarded?
Fran Dyer:
What do I still do?
Shelby Stanger:
Yeah. What do you do?
Fran Dyer:
No, I got out of college in the late sixties and I got a teaching job and I did that for about 18 years.
Shelby Stanger:
What grade?
Fran Dyer:
Junior high school.
Shelby Stanger:
Oh wow.
Fran Dyer:
And during that time I was a little bored. And so my girlfriend and I were trying to get our Master's and we decided to open a balloon decorating business while we were teaching. So I did that for 10 years and everyone was so shocked that we actually sold it.
Shelby Stanger:
It was a balloon decorating business?
Fran Dyer:
Remember back in the eighties, you did balloon decorations at--
Shelby Stanger:
Oh like arches.
Fran Dyer:
Weddings and arches.
Shelby Stanger:
Yeah.
Fran Dyer:
And we got into making animal balloon, big--
Shelby Stanger:
Cool.
Fran Dyer:
Wildlife scenes and stuff. And then eventually I decided I just didn't want to teach. I tried school administration. I didn't like that. And I liked kids, though. I really liked working with kids, but I didn't like having to work the same hours every day. I didn't like meetings. And so then I looked at a business to start. And so I opened up, we bought a franchise for Sylvan Learning Centers.
Shelby Stanger:
Oh yeah.
Fran Dyer:
And it's a good business.
Shelby Stanger:
Those are places that are educational?
Fran Dyer:
They're places kids come after school for extra instruction, either enrichment or remedial.
Shelby Stanger:
So Erin, you have a unique story, it sounds like.
Erin Weidner:
I grew up here and boogie boarded as a kid, when the boogie boards were much smaller. But I'm a standup paddle border. I go out in the ocean beyond the breakers, but it's a lot of work and you have to get somebody to go with you. I like to get somebody to go with me.
Shelby Stanger:
Carrying the board.
Erin Weidner:
Carrying the board.
Shelby Stanger:
Is a [inaudible 00:11:08].
Erin Weidner:
Yes. Yes. And then you have to find a parking spot that's close enough that you can offload and then you have to get it out there.
Shelby Stanger:
And you have to have the proper vehicle to fit in.
Erin Weidner:
Yes.
Shelby Stanger:
The boogie board fits in anything.
Erin Weidner:
Anything.
Shelby Stanger:
You put it on your bike.
Erin Weidner:
Yeah.
Fran Dyer:
And we do. And Erin and Jean and another one, they do ride their bikes.
Erin Weidner:
We ride our e-bikes.
Fran Dyer:
They ride their e-bikes.
Shelby Stanger:
I saw you. It was like watching a bunch of 13 year old boys on their e-bikes. I raced down. It's awesome.
Fran Dyer:
It is.
Shelby Stanger:
So Erin, your story, you've been a stand up paddler or you were a stand up paddler.
Erin Weidner:
Yeah. So I grew up here and my first career was as a residential land developer and real estate broker, and first female licensed general contractor.
Shelby Stanger:
Hell yeah. Let's talk about this.
Fran Dyer:
Good for you.
Shelby Stanger:
So, you're a badass in your career.
Erin Weidner:
It was very good. And then got divorced and found out I had to start altogether over. So post-divorce moved back here to Rancho, but it's been amazing.
Shelby Stanger:
It sounds like. You came to the club.
Erin Weidner:
I came to the club, I saw the article. I think I saw, it was a Reuters article. Yes. That was the first big one. And so I thought, I want to do this. So I reached out to my neighbor and friend, Jean and said, do you want to go do this? And then her husband encouraged her. She's like, Erin, if you can get Jean out, boogie boarding. And she's like, she's so gung-ho now.
Fran Dyer:
She loves it now.
Erin Weidner:
She loves it now. [crosstalk 00:12:36].
Fran Dyer:
She never misses.
Shelby Stanger:
Many of the women in the group come for the local Newcomers club, which is like an old school meetup. They organize social activities for folks who are new to the community or who've had big life changes or dealt with a loss. People also discover the Wave Chasers through word of mouth or running into them on the beach. If you do, it's hard not to want to join them. When you see a group of adorable older ladies, hooting and hollering and riding waves you'd want to join in too. When we come back, Fran and Erin talk about the feeling of riding a wave, the community they've created and they share some funny boogie board stories.
Shelby Stanger:
Fran Dyer and Erin Weidner are members of the Boogie Board Wave Chasers. A boogie boarding club in San Diego. The women meet five times a week and it's pretty much a party every time. Like surfing boogie boarding is exhilarating, kicking off and catching a wave makes you feel like a kid again. And riding that wave onto shore with your buddies next to you is even better.
Shelby Stanger:
What's the feeling of actually riding the wave? That's the part, what I'd love for you to talk about.
Fran Dyer:
You can tell that.
Erin Weidner:
Well, when you catch a wave and the funnest thing about our group is, off times you catch a wave and you look to your left or you look to your right and there's a girlfriend that you were just chatting with, with an equally sized ear to ear grin and you catch the wave and you're just riding it. You're gliding, you're flying. And it's bumpy and your legs are flopping up. It's just pure joy. Honest to goodness. It really is. It's just pure joy.
Fran Dyer:
Erin said exactly that, it's pure joy. The giggle, the smile on your face.
Erin Weidner:
The woo-hoo.
Fran Dyer:
The woo-hoo, you can scream. Where can we go to scream as loud as we want to? In the ocean nobody hears you except the girlfriend next to you.
Shelby Stanger:
Yeah.
Fran Dyer:
The other part is that many times you catch two waves at one time. And so, just when one wave has got you half, we'll get another wave--
Erin Weidner:
A double.
Fran Dyer:
Catches you. A double. And it's fabulous. It's the best feeling ever.
Erin Weidner:
We refer to that as an e-ticket. [crosstalk 00:14:49] That's an e-ticket wave. We look for them. You catch the first wave and then you're riding it in. And then the second one comes and throws you out.
Fran Dyer:
You can't beat the feeling of catching a good wave and riding it in.
Erin Weidner:
No.
Fran Dyer:
It makes the whole day.
Erin Weidner:
No. And it's different. I think the interesting thing too is, it's different every single day. It's different every single day. And one of the things about that exercise part and about coming in, I think to myself, my 92 year old self, thanks me. Every time I'm flat on the ground and I'm getting up on all fours and coming back up. I think my ankles, my hands, my elbows, my shoulders, every single joint in my body works harder, but I'm so filled with endorphins that I don't even think about it.
Shelby Stanger:
That's awesome.
Fran Dyer:
The beauty of boogie boarding is that you forget everything else. You might come to the beach. You might have to worry about something happening at home. But once you get in the ocean with these other friends, you don't talk about problems. You just simply enjoy the fresh air, the blue sky and even in the mornings when it's not a blue sky and you've got your warm wetsuit on, you still have that great feeling of buoyancy and of happiness. Maybe part of it brings you back to your childhood. When you didn't worry about anything, you just jumped in the ocean and played. And that's exactly what you do, is you just play.
Erin Weidner:
That's so right. It's exactly what it is. It's just play. You get to go play with your friends in the water and the ocean is your playground.
Fran Dyer:
The one thing when we asked the membership, what do you like about boogie boarding? Why do you come every week? Why do you come? And every one of them, the one thing they all said was, it just makes me smile. I feel so good when I go out in the water, when I go home, I just have this elated feeling. Someone said, it's magical.
Erin Weidner:
It is.
Fran Dyer:
It just makes you happy.
Shelby Stanger:
There was a woman who I met on Friday and she said, I boogie board because I had breast cancer and I survived.
Fran Dyer:
Interesting.
Shelby Stanger:
There was a couple people I've read that are dealing with things like cancer.
Fran Dyer:
That's right. Yes.
Erin Weidner:
And lost.
Fran Dyer:
Some of them have lost spouses. Some of them have retired and it didn't turn out exactly the way they wanted it to turn out. People have a lot of different problems. And I think the thing about boogie boarding is, you can forget those problems for a short time.
Erin Weidner:
You not only forget them, they're obliterated.
Shelby Stanger:
I think it also rewires your brain. I've been writing about adventure. And when you do something that shows you, you're more capable than you think you are, it rewires your brain. But then also there's this thing about being in nature, where you can't help but be physically present with all of your senses all at once and that itself changes you.
Fran Dyer:
I think, you talk about breast cancer, because I'm a breast cancer survivor. And you can't dwell on the breast cancer. We know that we have it. We know that there's probably going to be cancer somewhere else in our body that may pop up or something, but you just have to let that go. That part of it has to go, you do everything you can to be healthy. But then you find the fun things in life to do. And that's what you dwell on. And there's the beauty of boogie boarding, is that you can deal with the other things in life, but you can get out there once, twice, three times a week and just jump in the waves with friends and have a good time. And all the rest of it goes away.
Erin Weidner:
There's a book called The Happiness Project and he talks about the neural pathways of happy experiences and how, if we pay attention to those, how it actually changes the pathways. And so I think for us, I mean, for me, I go and do this every Friday and every Friday, there's that whole level of happiness and joy and your brain is paying attention to that. And your body's paying attention to that. And even if you're going through something physically, that's a challenge, it rewires your neural pathways.
Shelby Stanger:
Is there any funny stories from boogie boarding that you can remember or embarrassing ones?
Fran Dyer:
One gal came down and she said, I haven't boogie boarded in a long time, but I'm fine. I can do this great. So she went to put on her wetsuit. Well, it had been a very long time for that wetsuit and the seams started to pop. That was the end of her boogie boarding time. Then another gal, who came down to the beach and I've gone down boogie boarding over the years and totally forgotten my boogie board. That's kind of, you feel like an idiot, but that does happen.
Shelby Stanger:
Doesn't the lifeguard always have a lost and found one? I feel like you just [crosstalk 00:19:43]
Fran Dyer:
[crosstalk 00:19:43] we just share them when that happens. But one day a gal came down and totally forgot her bathing suit. Now that was a little bit tougher.
Shelby Stanger:
Oh.
Fran Dyer:
To do.
Erin Weidner:
One friend forgot her boogie board. And she got there and she was determined she was going to boogie board and there was a kid's boogie board in the trash up by the trash cans. And so, she picked it up and she boogie boarded on it for a while until it broke. And then she just put it back in the trash.
Erin Weidner:
Two weeks ago, the waves were big barrels more than we were used to. And so a couple of our noon group were out there and we don't usually have the equivalent of a yard sale in skiing, where just everything goes flying, but they were there and they caught the wave, only the wave caught them. And then we watched them do this yard sale. Everything went floating and flying. And even though it was technically a wipe out, they had fun and we were there and that's the worst thing that can happen to you. And it was hilarious for all of us.
Shelby Stanger:
[crosstalk 00:20:48] I think that's so beautiful that the worst thing that could happen is funny for everybody else.
Erin Weidner:
And for them.
Shelby Stanger:
Yeah.
Erin Weidner:
And it's like, oh my gosh, and then this is what it felt like. And then the wave was like this. And I was like this. And you get to share that experience. You get it mirrored back, which I think is a big, important--
Shelby Stanger:
I get so sad if I wipe out and no one's there to see it.
Erin Weidner:
I think the funnest, funniest, funnest, the funnest thing is what we just call a party wave. When we all catch this wave and you look that way and there's four friends that way. And you look that way and there's five friends that way, and you're all catching it and you're all. I subscribe to that thing, the saying that a burden shared is half, a joy shared is multiplied. And the idea that you look down the way and all these people are doing it too, makes it so much more exciting.
Shelby Stanger:
That is amazing.
Fran Dyer:
A party wave is good. I love that. [crosstalk 00:21:49]
Shelby Stanger:
[crosstalk 00:21:49] The party wave. [crosstalk 00:21:50]
Erin Weidner:
I love [crosstalk 00:21:50] that's what we yell. We yell that. We're like party wave.
Fran Dyer:
[crosstalk 00:21:52] That's a great one. Yeah.
Shelby Stanger:
Party waves are easier to do on boogie boards than surfboards. Not everybody likes to party [crosstalk 00:21:56].
Erin Weidner:
Nobody wants to party.
Shelby Stanger:
[crosstalk 00:21:58] on a surfboard.
Erin Weidner:
No.
Fran Dyer:
No.
Erin Weidner:
I like to party on a surfboard. No one else is a fan.
Erin Weidner:
I remember, gosh, this has probably been six years ago or so, I went to someone's celebration of life. And there was a picture of her boogie boarding at like 92. A big print of it. We are so fortunate. I'm so fortunate. I found this group.
Fran Dyer:
We had one woman, you talk about the 92 year old. We had one woman who actually came out and boogie boarded with us on a inflatable raft. That's what she boogie boarded with when she was younger.
Erin Weidner:
Yes.
Fran Dyer:
And she still had it, but when she passed away, she was in the hospital through her last days and we took a picture of her, a picture we had taken when she was boogie boarding, took it to her in the hospital just days before she passed away. Her daughter told us that she had the best, the biggest smile she had seen in ages, just from looking at that picture.
Shelby Stanger:
[crosstalk 00:22:57] that makes me teary eyed.
Fran Dyer:
Because it just reminded her of a time when she was happy, when she had a great time.
Erin Weidner:
I think the thing that boogie boarding does is that it's community and more than community, it is people who are all in. Every single person there is all in. Every time there's a wave, the bigger, the better. And we all jump in and go for it. And that adds to your life so much. I just can't even. We talked about the confidence and all that, and I think, I always say that my 92 year old self, thanks me every time that I boogie board, it brings so much joy to your life.
Shelby Stanger:
The Boogie Board Wave Chasers have a fond, energetic vibe that I hope to carry into my older years. Many of us boogie board for the first time as kids, because it's fairly safe and easy to get started. These ladies are tapping back into that youthful spirit and finding a ton of joy along the way. Their community provides a space for them to heal, to connect and to play at any age.
Shelby Stanger:
Thank you so much to the whole club. All the Boogie Board Wave Chasers for having me at your boogie board sessions. I seriously had such a great time meeting you all and riding waves with you. And Fran and Erin, thank you so much for coming over and coming on Wild Ideas Worth Living. If you're in San Diego and want to join these ladies for a session, you can go to Moonlight Beach at 9:30 in the morning on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, or you can go to Fletcher Cove in Solana Beach at noon on Mondays and Fridays. Bring your board and bring a sense of adventure.
Shelby Stanger:
Wild Ideas Worth Living is part of the REI Podcast Network. It's hosted by me, Shelby Stanger, written and edited by Annie Fassler and Sylvia Thomas of Puddle Creative. Our Senior Producer's Chelsea Davis, and our Associate Producer is Jenny Barber. Our Executive Producers are Paolo Mottola and Joe Crosby. As always, we love when you follow the show, when you rate it and you take the time to write a review wherever you listen. And remember some of the best adventures happen when you follow your wildest ideas. I hope you get your boogie on.